tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-653700594861871637.post4235814765543973551..comments2020-07-07T08:43:59.525-07:00Comments on The Truth About Trinity United Church of Christ: Black Liberation Theology 101truthToPowerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03962362086622176577noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-653700594861871637.post-69951876850577772142008-03-24T06:33:00.000-07:002008-03-24T06:33:00.000-07:00" "No, no, no, not God bless America! God damn Ame..." "No, no, no, not God bless America! God damn America — that's in the Bible — for killing innocent people." <BR/><BR/>According to Hopkins, that was theological wordplay — because the word "damn" is straight out of the Bible and has a specific meaning in the original Hebrew.<BR/><BR/>"It means a sacred condemnation by God to a wayward nation who has strayed from issues of justice, strayed from issues of peace, strayed from issues of reconciliation," Hopkins says."<BR/><BR/>So...you are telling me that Rev Wright is now speaking for God when he calls for God to "Damn America"? <BR/><BR/>And you are ok with that?<BR/><BR/>You can twist and parse and wrap up the language of the Bible all you want in however many twisted convolutions you want, but the fact remains, Wright is a hate monger and a racist and anyone who follows his "preaching" should be looked at as twisted in their thinking toward race relations and should be condemned for the significant lack of critical thinking capabilities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-653700594861871637.post-43779499182035387802008-03-21T06:18:00.000-07:002008-03-21T06:18:00.000-07:00I believe it the writer was paraphrasing the passa...I believe it the writer was paraphrasing the passage when Jesus reads from the book of Isaiah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-653700594861871637.post-21817673616851551942008-03-21T04:20:00.000-07:002008-03-21T04:20:00.000-07:00Hey, I was wondering if you or another TUCC member...Hey, I was wondering if you or another TUCC member would care to look at and improve the wikipedia page on Black liberation theology. There's isn't very much information there, and there is also a "Controversy" section that deals with the Wright controversy by highly selective quotation of his sermons. (Can you guess which quotes are featured?)Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08801379298358735006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-653700594861871637.post-47400838207904247152008-03-20T20:23:00.000-07:002008-03-20T20:23:00.000-07:00You said in Luke chapter 4 it says.""Jesus says my...You said in Luke chapter 4 it says.<BR/><BR/>""Jesus says my mission is to eradicate poverty and to bring about freedom and liberation for the oppressed," Hopkins says. "And most Christian pastors in America skip over that part of the book."<BR/><BR/>There is no such thing in Luke 4.<BR/><BR/>I watched the service over the web. I was impressed with the service, but not the preaching. Black liberation theology is not biblical. Jesus was speaking of the poor in spirit.<BR/><BR/>I could even attend such a church if the biblical teaching were correct.<BR/><BR/>I am very familir with Liberation Theology. <BR/><BR/>See my blog on my experience with liberation theology and what I thought of Trinity Church's Service<BR/><BR/>http://mark24609.blogspot.com/2008/03/deconstructing-obama.htmlMarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232302045817683532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-653700594861871637.post-27541139764817570432008-03-20T20:08:00.000-07:002008-03-20T20:08:00.000-07:00I am not a member of Church of Christ, or any fait...I am not a member of Church of Christ, or any faith-based institution for that matter. Although once heavily involved in Church, my experiences have led me to view many Christian Churches as more interested in the divisiveness of the Gospel than its inclusiveness. As a result, I initially felt like this fiasco was the Church's "chickens coming home to roost." Now however, although my spiritual views have not changed, my opinions on this issue has.<BR/><BR/>Regardless of my faith, it hurts to watch a minister become a political football tossed about by flailing campaigns in hopes of finding a resuscitative lifeline in the polls. At the end of the day, Rev. Wright is a person as are the members of his church that have become "racist bigots" in the eyes of some. Rev. Wright obviously does something for the many that he has touched over the years - politicians, ministers/ministries, celebrities and lay alike. Where are they? Where is Oprah? Why wouldn't spiritual leaders across the spectrum come out and say, "ENOUGH!" The unfair coverage of this matter is painful to watch because the hypocrisy is patronizing and cuts so deep into our society.<BR/><BR/>I suppose the only reason I decided to share my thoughts on this blog was because I do not think Rev. Wright deserves better and I hope a more positive message gets out. Although I do not think it wise that a minister - THE spiritual leader of the Church which is home to a leading Presidential Candidate - would make such politically incorrect statements, I cannot help but to believe that the treatment he - and as a byproduct, his flock - received is patently unfair. Rev. Wright and his church is not on anyone's ballot. He and you deserve better than this from the communities you have touched in a positive way and I hope they will soon come to your aid to show the world who you really are.<BR/><BR/>As you make substantive information available, I will work to share your perspectives with my friends and family. I want to do my part in ending this ugly dialogue that's surfaced, if only starting with my own email list.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for listening and I wish you and your congregation all the best,<BR/><BR/>Dee<BR/>St. Louis, MOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-653700594861871637.post-37145564878457052992008-03-20T18:44:00.000-07:002008-03-20T18:44:00.000-07:00What can we do to get these other sermons on the T...What can we do to get these other sermons on the TV? The thing that is hurting Obama the most from the election perspective is the repeated phrase "he listened to this hate for 20 years". Any religious person listening to the one where he is singing with the choir and church would be able to relate to that.Big Michiganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02513339432206509710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-653700594861871637.post-65602158833378674602008-03-20T17:45:00.000-07:002008-03-20T17:45:00.000-07:00I used to be a member of the Emmaus United Church ...I used to be a member of the Emmaus United Church of Christ in Vienna, Virginia. I wish that I could belong to a community like Trinity United Church of Christ. I so much miss the deeply intellectual, loving, questioning, searching that such a community offers. I'm so grateful that you are standing behind Reverend Wright, and I hope Barack Obama. I just love him - you can tell from his speech that he has been nurtured by a wonderful community.meadi4https://www.blogger.com/profile/12250762294915515180noreply@blogger.com